Are the seat assignments on the plane's exit row allowed for the deaf passengers ? My experience would tell you about it.
21 comments:
Anonymous
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Exit row that they have good reason that deaf, Senior Citzens and childrens suppose not to take row seats because safety reason. What if airplane get trouble or accident. Traveller on exit row seat wait for pilot's response tby hear sound from the ceiling inside the plan. to tell traveller open left or right both exit window. you unable hear what do pilot tell you to do or don't open exit door.
As a deaf person who is a frequent flyer I must say I have sat by the exit row seats many times. Technically one should be able to hear the commands of the captian in case of an emergency But common sense says that no one in their right mind would open an exit door at 30,000 feet. Therefore any use of the exit doors would be required after the plane has either crashed, landed, or still afloat etc. with that being said it is also advised that any deaf person flying in a plane should start a conversation whith his / her seat mate whom can be a valuable asset in case of emergency. Also any deaf person flying should read all the safety instructions about such since there are so many different plane constructions and models. I assuer you that in case of an emergency where the exit doors would have to be open there would be a stampeed for the exits so there would be plenty of peple clamoring to get out depending on how severe the situation is. My flights are always booked through Corporate seating so I usually have a good choice of seats. Just remember that once you are in the air there is not much you can do. Once a emergency occurrs the magnitude of such will determine what needs to be done and my best advice is not to freeze up but use common sense.
Yes my family and I have sat in the exit row a few times, it is very comfortable, I don't blame you for wanting to sit there because then you don't feel anyone bumping in the back of you and there is privacy. The last time we sat there was about three or four years ago.
I would think if (god forbid) we were to encounter an accident on plane, there is always someone on the plane there who is willing to jump in to help out. I could easily stand up from my seat and move out of the way while someone gets there and open the door, is that possible? Thats just common sense. I dont think anyone would be passive and sit there quietly and listen to the instructions as human nature is to jump out and help to get everyone to safety. I could be wrong on this.
remember the size doesnt matter. geeks can lift-they just surprise you. so dont judge by the looks, :) its a fact when you check people's ID and take a look at their birthdate-thats when they know for sure that the passengers are labeled as senior citizens. and it is impossible to stay quiet all the way even if you are assigned to the exit row seat. thed would come to you and speak to explain the rules, etc...no difference. so dont judge by the cover, :)
I was not aware of the rules for exit seating. I searched through Internet and found the regulation that I reproduced below. The citation for the regulation is 14CFR121.585 (it means Title 14 in Code of Federal Regulations starting at Section 121.585).
I learned something new about it.
Joseph Pietro Riolo josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com
Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain.
[Code of Federal Regulations] [Title 14, Volume 2] [Revised as of January 1, 2006] From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access [CITE: 14CFR121.585]
[Page 549-551]
TITLE 14--AERONAUTICS AND SPACE
CHAPTER I--FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (CONTINUED)
PART 121_OPERATING REQUIREMENTS: DOMESTIC, FLAG, AND SUPPLEMENTAL OPERATIONS--Table of Contents
Subpart T_Flight Operations
Sec. 121.585 Exit seating.
[some paragraphs deleted - jpr]
(b) No certificate holder may seat a person in a seat affected by this section if the certificate holder determines that it is likely that the person would be unable to perform one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section because-- (1) The person lacks sufficient mobility, strength, or dexterity in both arms and hands, and both legs: (i) To reach upward, sideways, and downward to the location of emergency exit and exit-slide operating mechanisms; (ii) To grasp and push, pull, turn, or otherwise manipulate those mechanisms; (iii) To push, shove, pull, or otherwise open emergency exits; (iv) To lift out, hold, deposit on nearby seats, or maneuver over the seatbacks to the next row objects the size and weight of over-wing window exit doors; (v) To remove obstructions similar in size and weight to over-wing exit doors; (vi) To reach the emergency exit expeditiously; (vii) To maintain balance while removing obstructions; (viii) To exit expeditiously; (ix) To stabilize an escape slide after deployment; or (x) To assist others in getting off an escape slide; (2) The person is less than 15 years of age or lacks the capacity to perform one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section without the assistance of an adult companion, parent, or other relative; (3) The person lacks the ability to read and understand instructions required by this section and related to emergency evacuation provided by the certificate holder in printed or graphic form or the ability to understand oral crew commands. (4) The person lacks sufficient visual capacity to perform one or more of the applicable functions in paragraph (d) of this section without the assistance of visual aids beyond contact lenses or eyeglasses; (5) The person lacks sufficient aural capacity to hear and understand instructions shouted by flight attendants, without assistance beyond a hearing aid; (6) The person lacks the ability adequately to impart information orally to other passengers; or, (7) The person has:
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(i) A condition or responsibilities, such as caring for small children, that might prevent the person from performing one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section; or (ii) A condition that might cause the person harm if he or she performs one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section.
If you sit in exit row, before they take off. The attendant will give you and passenger some instructions. You have to say "yes" clearly for the attendant to understand when they ask you if you understand. If you can't do that or nod, you are automatically forced to move to other seat.
I just love you how complain about deaf not being allowed to sit in the exit row seat, then you turn around and discriminate against someone else just because they are thin/geeky. Nice.
Please do not wear that sweatshirt when you vlog. It is a eye-sore. Thank You!
To me that is discrimination because a Deaf person could sit at the exit row and then if emergency arises the pilot or stewardess can use ASL to communicate with the Deaf person. Of course they need to learn ASL.
Maybe if they say no to the exit row ask to be moved to first class!
Okay, you're so stupid to bring this up. You should know better that you CAN NOT sit the exit row. Like others said, the pilot/FA makes an announcment in case of accident, how do you know when to open it or not?? You ought to stop WHINE about not being able to seat on an exit row. GROW UP and get a life!
If you decide to get an exit row seat and didn't inform them you're deaf. When it comes to an accident, such as overshoot runaway, fire, and the list goes on, the pilot and F/A made the announcement to open the exit doors, you can't hear the PA. The person who sit next to you might sue you AND the airline for violating the law, refusing to open the exit door, not cooperating the pilot and/or F/A. DUH! Use your common sense...
I trust the people who make the policies for the airlines. They know what they are doing. Rules are rules.
What's so special about sitting in the exit row? Relax, the policy was not created to offend anyone, it is for everyone's personal safty, EVERYONE on the plane.
I applaud you for making sure that there is a policy for exit row assignment, but your approach (argumentive and disgruntled) would stigmatize deaf airline passengers that they are either whinies or troublemakers. You need to be careful and accept what the airline personnel says - especially in the area of safety. I've known that the deaf people cannot sit in exit rows ever since I first boarded the plane.
21 comments:
Exit row that they have good reason that deaf, Senior Citzens and childrens suppose not to take row seats because safety reason. What if airplane get trouble or accident. Traveller on exit row seat wait for pilot's response tby hear sound from the ceiling inside the plan. to tell traveller open left or right both exit window. you unable hear what do pilot tell you to do or don't open exit door.
Chuckles. Yeah I've sat there when they didnt know, and changed seats when they knew.
You wanted that row so you can exit quickly and jump off the wing while the rest stand idly waiting to deplane up front heh?
Often theres just too many rules and policies that folks simply forget them.
As a deaf person who is a frequent flyer I must say I have sat by the exit row seats many times.
Technically one should be able to hear the commands of the captian in case of an emergency But common sense says that no one in their right mind would open an exit door at 30,000 feet.
Therefore any use of the exit doors would be required after the plane has either crashed, landed, or still afloat etc.
with that being said it is also advised that any deaf person flying in a plane should start a conversation whith his / her seat mate whom can be a valuable asset in case of emergency.
Also any deaf person flying should read all the safety instructions about such since there are so many different plane constructions and models.
I assuer you that in case of an emergency where the exit doors would have to be open there would be a stampeed for the exits so there would be plenty of peple clamoring to get out depending on how severe the situation is.
My flights are always booked through Corporate seating so I usually have a good choice of seats.
Just remember that once you are in the air there is not much you can do.
Once a emergency occurrs the magnitude of such will determine what needs to be done and my best advice is not to freeze up but use common sense.
Doc
Yes my family and I have sat in the exit row a few times, it is very comfortable, I don't blame you for wanting to sit there because then you don't feel anyone bumping in the back of you and there is privacy. The last time we sat there was about three or four years ago.
I would think if (god forbid) we were to encounter an accident on plane, there is always someone on the plane there who is willing to jump in to help out. I could easily stand up from my seat and move out of the way while someone gets there and open the door, is that possible? Thats just common sense. I dont think anyone would be passive and sit there quietly and listen to the instructions as human nature is to jump out and help to get everyone to safety. I could be wrong on this.
remember the size doesnt matter. geeks can lift-they just surprise you. so dont judge by the looks, :) its a fact when you check people's ID and take a look at their birthdate-thats when they know for sure that the passengers are labeled as senior citizens. and it is impossible to stay quiet all the way even if you are assigned to the exit row seat. thed would come to you and speak to explain the rules, etc...no difference. so dont judge by the cover, :)
I was not aware of the rules for exit seating. I searched through Internet and found the regulation that I reproduced below. The citation for the regulation is 14CFR121.585 (it means Title 14 in Code of Federal Regulations starting at Section 121.585).
I learned something new about it.
Joseph Pietro Riolo
josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com
Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this post in the public domain.
[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 14, Volume 2]
[Revised as of January 1, 2006]
From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
[CITE: 14CFR121.585]
[Page 549-551]
TITLE 14--AERONAUTICS AND SPACE
CHAPTER I--FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
(CONTINUED)
PART 121_OPERATING REQUIREMENTS: DOMESTIC, FLAG, AND SUPPLEMENTAL
OPERATIONS--Table of Contents
Subpart T_Flight Operations
Sec. 121.585 Exit seating.
[some paragraphs deleted - jpr]
(b) No certificate holder may seat a person in a seat affected by
this section if the certificate holder determines that it is likely that
the person would be unable to perform one or more of the applicable
functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section because--
(1) The person lacks sufficient mobility, strength, or dexterity in
both arms and hands, and both legs:
(i) To reach upward, sideways, and downward to the location of
emergency exit and exit-slide operating mechanisms;
(ii) To grasp and push, pull, turn, or otherwise manipulate those
mechanisms;
(iii) To push, shove, pull, or otherwise open emergency exits;
(iv) To lift out, hold, deposit on nearby seats, or maneuver over
the seatbacks to the next row objects the size and weight of over-wing
window exit doors;
(v) To remove obstructions similar in size and weight to over-wing
exit doors;
(vi) To reach the emergency exit expeditiously;
(vii) To maintain balance while removing obstructions;
(viii) To exit expeditiously;
(ix) To stabilize an escape slide after deployment; or
(x) To assist others in getting off an escape slide;
(2) The person is less than 15 years of age or lacks the capacity to
perform one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d)
of this section without the assistance of an adult companion, parent, or
other relative;
(3) The person lacks the ability to read and understand instructions
required by this section and related to emergency evacuation provided by
the certificate holder in printed or graphic form or the ability to
understand oral crew commands.
(4) The person lacks sufficient visual capacity to perform one or
more of the applicable functions in paragraph (d) of this section
without the assistance of visual aids beyond contact lenses or
eyeglasses;
(5) The person lacks sufficient aural capacity to hear and
understand instructions shouted by flight attendants, without assistance
beyond a hearing aid;
(6) The person lacks the ability adequately to impart information
orally to other passengers; or,
(7) The person has:
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(i) A condition or responsibilities, such as caring for small
children, that might prevent the person from performing one or more of
the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d) of this section; or
(ii) A condition that might cause the person harm if he or she
performs one or more of the applicable functions listed in paragraph (d)
of this section.
[rest of section deleted – jpr]
If you sit in exit row, before they take off. The attendant will give you and passenger some instructions. You have to say "yes" clearly for the attendant to understand when they ask you if you understand. If you can't do that or nod, you are automatically forced to move to other seat.
I just love you how complain about deaf not being allowed to sit in the exit row seat, then you turn around and discriminate against someone else just because they are thin/geeky. Nice.
I knew about that policy. However, I've occupied the exit row seats many times and the flight attendants knew I was deaf.
Typical policy based on conditions and ignorance. If someone wore a hearing aid, it is OK. The same for truck drivers. Yeah, right.
Hey Judge,
Please do not wear that sweatshirt when you vlog. It is a eye-sore. Thank You!
To me that is discrimination because a Deaf person could sit at the exit row and then if emergency arises the pilot or stewardess can use ASL to communicate with the Deaf person. Of course they need to learn ASL.
Maybe if they say no to the exit row ask to be moved to first class!
David M.
Okay, you're so stupid to bring this up. You should know better that you CAN NOT sit the exit row. Like others said, the pilot/FA makes an announcment in case of accident, how do you know when to open it or not?? You ought to stop WHINE about not being able to seat on an exit row. GROW UP and get a life!
If you decide to get an exit row seat and didn't inform them you're deaf. When it comes to an accident, such as overshoot runaway, fire, and the list goes on, the pilot and F/A made the announcement to open the exit doors, you can't hear the PA. The person who sit next to you might sue you AND the airline for violating the law, refusing to open the exit door, not cooperating the pilot and/or F/A. DUH! Use your common sense...
david martin, STOP complaining about his sweatshirt. Get a life!
(chuckle)
I love Southwest airplane! They let me enter in a airplane by first group then sat next to exit door. Also, I received drink and snack first too.
*Gasp* Ohh.. I wasn't suppose to sit there!
Jon
I trust the people who make the policies for the airlines. They know what they are doing. Rules are rules.
What's so special about sitting in the exit row? Relax, the policy was not created to offend anyone, it is for everyone's personal safty, EVERYONE on the plane.
I applaud you for making sure that there is a policy for exit row assignment, but your approach (argumentive and disgruntled) would stigmatize deaf airline passengers that they are either whinies or troublemakers. You need to be careful and accept what the airline personnel says - especially in the area of safety. I've known that the deaf people cannot sit in exit rows ever since I first boarded the plane.
Anonymous, haha! I never approached the airline people with lousy attitude. Just discuss to see if I can sit there due to my height.
I usually ask for the bulkhead seat. Usually not a problem for me.
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